Welcome to the discussion post for Baby-sitters on Board!! This post doesn't have an expiry date on it, so just comment whenever you're ready.
What was your favourite part? What was your least favourite part? Any memorable quotes you'd like to share? What had you forgotten about since the last time this book was read? If someone wrote a fic set during the timeline of this fic, what should they write?
There are no mandatory questions or points of discussion for this - anything you want to talk about in relation to this week's book, go ahead!
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- I find it so weird that Kristy is described as messy. If they needed a messy character to clash with Dawn, pick Claudia! I could totally buy that! Kristy is so organised and switched on that I find it hard to buy she'd have a messy bedroom. I also find it a little weird that Dawn is chosen as the neat one? IDK.
- lmao Mallory and Mary Anne "lunging" for Vanessa because she's so slow they have to do her laces up for her.
- “Look for people wearing goofy bathing caps and laugh at them,” said Jordan.
I'll go with you, Jordan.
- I love Mary Anne's fascination with how well girls fill out their bikini tops.
- Aww, Mallory's first chapter! :D
- Ugggh a Karen chapter.
- UGH KAREN. I really just can't stand her. I find nothing about her endearing, she's such a brat and the fact that she's forgiven for it in the narrative all the time bugs me SO MUCH.
- SHE GETS AWAY WITH THE MANICURE AND THE COKE, WHAT THE FUCK
- The secret admirer stuff is realllllly creepy :/
- Awww, Watson taking David Michael off and teaching him how to swim! Somebody please write fic of this, it's ADORABLE. I love Watson & Thomas kid stuff.
- Omg YES, giant ocean storm on the ship. I literally remember nothing about this but suddenly everyone is staggering around and I just want all the fear/reassurance/hurt/comfort stuff, PLEASE DELIVER IT TO ME, BOOK
- ... okay so there wasn't much fear/reassurance but Stacey looking after Claire and Margo was pretty adorable.
- FLYING BANANA
- KRISTY ONCE AGAIN BEING SILENTLY INDIGNANT ABOUT A MAN'S PANTS NOT MATCHING HIS SHIRT = AMAZING
- OH MY GOD, KRISTY MAKING FRIENDS WITH THE GRUMPY OLD MAN. Kristy I love you so much ♥
- Awww the treasure hunting chapter is adorable!!
- Omy why is the little random "the McGills have a ping pong table in their basement" fact SO AMAZING to me?
- Awww Margo and Claire making friends with Marc and playing video games! ADORABLE.
- Dawn and I didn’t dare to argue with Claudia. We started to unpack our things. Since we weren’t talking, I switched on the TV. “Hey!” I said immediately. “We get cable here!”
“Really?” exclaimed Dawn, who doesn’t have cable TV at her house in Connecticut. “Hey, maybe we’ll get, you know, some movies we’re not allowed to watch.”
“R-rated?” I suggested, my eyes growing wide.
OH MY GOD
- Watson pocketing the key from the mini bar is a bit of a buzz kill. YOU'RE A MILLIONAIRE, MAN. YOU CAN AFFORD $2.50 CHIPS.
- Oh my god ANOTHER Karen chapter? I'm not sure I even have the strength. Also WTF are Watson and Elizabeth thinking agreeing to take her and Andrew on the Haunted Mansion ride, COME ON GUYS
- David Michael going off with Charlie and Sam at Disney World... I NEED ALL OF THE FIC
- I begged to be allowed to go off on my own again.
“Your own?” said Dad, frowning. “You really want to go on rides by yourself? Wouldn’t you have more fun with some of your brothers and sisters – or even your old dad?”
I'LL VISIT DISNEY WORLD WITH YOU, MR. PIKE, AND WE WILL RIDE THE CAROUSEL TOGETHER
- The whole Alexandra/MA friendship thing is weird. YOU'RE NOT FRIENDS, MARY ANNE
- AWW I love that the boys find real treasure and it turns out to be Dawn's bracelet!
- ANOTHER Karen chapter?! ANOTHER ONE?! REALLY?! UGH
- GOD SHE'S SUCH A BRAT, UGH
- Omg Kristy and Mr. Staples.
He smiled sadly at me. “You’re one in a million, kiddo,” he said gruffly.
“Aw, come on. I bet you say that to all the girls.”
♥ ♥ ♥
- REALLY disappointed in the illustrations in this one. They're MEANT to be photos, why don't they at least have semi-realistic drawings, like the front cover? Was also disappointed to get to the end and not see a little collage of photos put together of the BSC, like we get in later books. But the book was adorable throughout.
....except for Karen. :p
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(Anonymous) 2016-07-24 02:00 am (UTC)(link)This is kind of making me agree with you that Kristy should be the neat one! I wish the neat vs. messy fight was Kristy vs. Claudia with Dawn in the middle.
- Omy why is the little random "the McGills have a ping pong table in their basement" fact SO AMAZING to me?
I love that too! I am picturing them going shopping for furniture to fill up a whole house since they were coming out of an apartment. And now I'm picturing it in the party scene in Logan Likes Mary Anne!
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Like, you’ve got Claire who imo is a realistic five-year-old – endearing and silly, sometimes naughty but gets scolded accordingly. AND THEN THERE’S KAREN. It’s especially evident in this book when they’re put side by side.
I just want all the fear/reassurance/hurt/comfort stuff, PLEASE DELIVER IT TO ME, BOOK
boy did SS4 and SS10 gave me high expectations for id-tastic disaster/fear/hurt-comfort goodness in Super Specials!
YOU'RE A MILLIONAIRE, MAN. YOU CAN AFFORD $2.50 CHIPS.
I’m thinking Watson kept hearing dinner table horror stories of Claudia’s junk food habits, so when he was faced with the prospect of Claudia + junk-food-filled fridge, he was just like Nope.
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lmao okay, this is my head canon now. Thank you for that :'D
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(Anonymous) 2016-07-24 01:53 am (UTC)(link)So, when exactly is this set? It's not the summer that just ended because the Thomas-Brewer family wasn't going take a vacation so that they could all get to know each other. Claudia and the New Girl takes place in fall. Time warp aside, we've been pretty good on continuity up until now!
I wonder if Mr. Pike's company knew how many people they would be sending on this trip. Are they paying for Stacey and Mary Anne and, if not, who is?
More references to Cousin Robin! I wonder if she isn't a kid. Could she be Elizabeth's cousin? That would explain why she's not referenced in Kristy's Big Day (also would be explained if she's on Patrick's side) because they don't seem to have invited any other relatives beyond Elizabeth's sisters and their families so I can see leaving a first (or more distant) cousin out. The way Kristy specifically says "we" visited her makes it sound like she's adult and not a kid because if she was Kristy's age, wouldn't they say Uncle Whatever and Aunt Whosit and Cousin Robin?
Things that date this book: meal service on domestic flights, being allowed in the cockpit
So, Karen going missing for hours(?) and buying things she doesn't have the permission to buy (I'm sure a Coke can be forgiven but I have no idea what a manicure costs) is "too much." ARRRGH.
Vacation staples I love that start to show up here: Claudia bringing 5 suitcases, Mary Anne spouting off guidebook information about the Ocean Princess.
There is no way I would allow my thirteen-year-old daughter's friends to wander Nassau alone, given that the State Department gives it a "critical" rating for safety (https://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/country/the-bahamas.html).
I really love Kristy and the old man. I always wanted to read The Mayor of Casterbridge but I have yet to get around to it.
I guess this is some kind of package deal. This is long before Disney Cruise Line existed, but it's a bit odd that everyone on the cruise is also going to WDW. Especially because this means Mr. Pike won a spot (or 12) on this package trip and then Watson was able to reserve 10 more?
I think it's probably a good thing that Spider is not Claudia's secret admirer because unless the BSC-verse has a lot of thirteen-year-old rock stars, the probability of him being about 20 years too old for her is very high!
Is having a sink outside the bathroom really that fancy? That seems standard motel to me.
I have a difficult time believing there are no R-rated movies playing at any given moment on at least one cable channel.
Claudia shutting down Kristy and Dawn is fantastic. I love that she pulls out Kristin Amanda! I love all the little reminders that even though Kristy and Mary Anne are best friends, Claudia has also known them forever.
Claudia meets the mini-bar! I like how Watson takes the key totally away, like just telling them not to eat anything isn't enough.
Okay, time to show off my Disney nerd stuff with Things That Date This Book, Part II: Main Street vehicles, stores on Main Street actually selling different things instead of all the same crap (Incidentally, they are not staying at a Disney hotel because there isn't one that fits the criteria of "open in 1988," "on the bus line," and "has a fancy dining room," although there were non-Disney-owned on-property hotels already open on Hotel Plaza Blvd.)
Nitpick: They keep using "Disney World" in place of "Magic Kingdom" and it's driving me nuts.
LOL at Elizabeth being an architecture nerd. Crenelations?! She has consistently been my favorite BSC parent on this re-read. She's awesome.
Of course Karen and the Haunted Manson. Also, poor Andrew. If he's so scared Watson has to carry him, maybe they don't go one the ride????
Oh, Mary Anne, you should know better than to feed Margo and then take her on Space Mountain.
I'm surprised Nicky let David Michael buy a necklace when he kept making him throw back the pink shells.
I went nuts as a kid because the BSC went to my favorite place on Earth but I am full of nerd glee that they actually went to the Empress Lilly. That is so delightfully obscure and I love it. All of the descriptions have been bang-on. The person who wrote this book has actually been there.
Argh, Karen being a brat again. But guys, guys, Jenny's the REAL brat, donchaknow?
Wait, ten countries? Ha, Morocco opened in 1988 but I guess it was after this book was published. This is making me even more nostalgic than the Magic Kingdom parts. WORLD OF MOTION. But I'm dying to know where they went for lunch. And, oh, Marc. That made me tear up.
Alex is just plain weird, though. Timothy isn't totally normal either. Claudia, you have a bad track record with infatuations recently.
Kristy and the old man saying good-bye is unexpectedly sad-making! Maybe because deep down inside Kristy is actually an old man???
I am cracking up at the idea that this book is what they wrote in the notebook. Because their parents 100% want to read about Claudia's stalker and Mary Anne's crush.
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YES, I loved this too! Of course Mary Anne reads guidebooks before she goes anywhere, omg :)
I loved all of your insights into how everything actually fits into "real life", so feel free to provide those comments any time! I fully expect I will be pretty talkative when the Hobarts come to town. Mostly with "NO" and "UGH" :p
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(Anonymous) 2016-07-24 02:29 am (UTC)(link)Also, I wish they'd waited a year so MGM was open. I want Mary Anne to go on the Great Movie Ride!
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iirc, she wrote to Kristy in the Chain Letter book? It didn’t occur to me before that she might not be a kid . But then I’m from a country where we call people in our parents’ generation ‘uncle/aunt’ and not ‘cousin’. The Western ‘relative-once-removed’ thing always confused me. She does sound like an adult in the letter – saying “your mom called us” and stuff.
Claudia shutting down Kristy and Dawn is fantastic. I love that she pulls out Kristin Amanda!
I am loving all the moments of “Claudia is done with Kristy’s shit” that this reread is bringing. :D
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-D’awww, Mal has Harriet the Spy fever.
-Byron is my fave triplet (isn’t he everyone’s?) so I was very glad to see his POV here! Extra nice to see Nicky and the triplets getting along too.
We could use it to look for treasure in lots of places. It doesn’t have to be a map for treasure on Treasure Cay. <3<3<3 This is such a great kid-thing. I love their determination to continue the treasure hunt no matter WHERE.
-OMG Kristy plowing past Mr. Staples’s old man grumpiness and teaching him to play video games! And teaming up with him for tournaments! <3
-Vacation Boyfriend alert! Looking back, I think the only BSC Vacation Boyfriend to get a really fleshed-out personality was Michel from SS15. Timothy is as not-normal as his sister – like, tone it down a little, dude. I did like Dawn taming Parker to the idea of stepsiblings, though.
-“Touchy, touchy,” said Dawn, who’s the only one I would have let get away with saying something like that just then. Hah, this is a really sibling thing to say (from both Dawn and Mary Anne) even though they’re not stepsisters yet.
-didn't enjoy the Karen chapters either but my peak SHUT UP KAREN feelings are in Super Mystery 1, lol
-HAPPY ENDING FOR MARC. <3
(And…did Ann just forget that Sam and Charlie were on the trip ¼ of the way through the book?? Seems like they boarded the ship then dropped off the face of the earth, lol. Guess they didn’t wanna hang out with a bunch of 13 yo’s and their charges.)