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ozqueen ([personal profile] ozqueen) wrote in [community profile] stoneybrook2016-06-12 09:20 am

Read Through: BSC #7 - Claudia and Mean Janine




Claudia and Mean Janine

CLAUDIA'S SISTER IS AN IMPOSSIBLE PERSON TO LIVE WITH!



Welcome to the discussion post for Claudia and Mean Janine! This post doesn't have an expiry date on it, so just comment whenever you're ready.

What was your favourite part? What was your least favourite part? Any memorable quotes you'd like to share? What had you forgotten about since the last time this book was read? If someone wrote a fic set during the timeline of this fic, what should they write?

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Next week's book is BSC #8 - Boy-Crazy Stacey
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[identity profile] redsilverchains.livejournal.com 2016-06-12 08:05 am (UTC)(link)
-She’s thirteen now! Get used to it Claud…for the next 10+ years…

-I don’t think Claudia liking to dance is ever brought up again.

-When Dawn and I stand next to each other, we look kind of like a photograph and its negative. This is quite the artsy description. :D

-Ahhh, Charlie is the world’s most easygoing person.

-I felt so bad for Janine! She is so right: they don’t even LET her be involved in family stuff, whether it’s doing chores or joining in on the bonding sessions like tea with Mimi. They’re just content to let her be in her own little box as the genius. What makes me sad is that she seems to be walking on eggshells with her own family, careful only to do the things that they want.

Interesting how she looks wistful over the BSC – we’ve been informed that Janine has only one friend (the math genius? whatever happened to that one?) and she must surely be envious that Claudia has four insta-BFFs with the club.

At least they communicate with me. Hah, this makes me think that online comms and such would be good for Janine. If this hadn’t been written in the 80’s, I’d have assumed she was chatting or on a forum or something.

-how fricking adorable is Janine playing with the Newtons? Cooing over Lucy and playing pat-a-cake, awwww.

-also, pretty interesting that being called a nerd sets her off. She must hear it a lot, poor thing.

-"Five baby-sitters! What would you do with five baby-sitters, Jamie?"
"Have lots of fun," he replied cheerfully.

Jamie’s clear adoration for his babysitters continues to make me melt. See also "Claudy’s here." <3

-someone should really tell Karen off and not let her get away with such things, tsk. But at the same time, I was super amused at the image of the whole BSC and all of the kids using sweet Andrew as their convenient monster – and at Andrew going along with it!

-ok but Andrew/Jenny futurefic though

-the bathing Louie scenes are so much fun! All of the kids chasing him around, hee. And 'he shrank!/now he’s fat again!' is adorable.

- I love the little Mimi-isms we keep getting like Minnie is the mouse and shattered eggman. <3

-Everything about Mimi is so hard to read. The blinking scene broke my heart when I was younger and still does now.

-I like how by now the whole BSC loves Mimi and how her situation puts them all in the doldrums during meetings. Mary Anne being described as ‘schoolteacherish’ though. :) I’m impressed she didn’t burst into tears when Mimi yelled – it says a lot about their bond that Mary Anne can take it. That, and Mary Anne saying "I deserved it": really mature.

- "You’re always pushing me into my world and out of yours." –ohhhh good way to put it. I do wish Claudia would have apologized along with giving Janine her advice.

-re: the scene where Mr. Kishi gets a pad of paper:
"I think she’ll need something bigger," I said.
Everyone looked at me. "Why do you think that?" asked Dad curiously.
"I just – just do." I’ve had enough trouble in school to know what will be easy, and what will be difficult.

Huh, okay, so I don’t know much about learning disorders (which I’ve seen as a theory re: Claudia), but could this have been foreshadowing for a future plot that was later dropped? Or am I just reading too much into it?

-all in all, this was a really good one and showed some nice self-awareness in Claudia, plus, the B-plots were cute! And OMG, I can’t wait for the next one – Sea City books were so my jam.
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[personal profile] baseballchica03 2016-06-14 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
-I felt so bad for Janine! She is so right: they don’t even LET her be involved in family stuff, whether it’s doing chores or joining in on the bonding sessions like tea with Mimi. They’re just content to let her be in her own little box as the genius. What makes me sad is that she seems to be walking on eggshells with her own family, careful only to do the things that they want.

Agreed. It's like they put her in this little box and don't let her step outside of it. Even though Claudia gets a lot of nagging from her parents about her grades, in some ways she's a lot more free than Janine. She has her art and babysitting and dresses all wild and crazy and has interests other than school. I mean, heck, Janine feels like she has to hide the fact that she has a boyfriend later on, and she's a much more reasonable age for going out on dates than Claudia is! The prequel makes me kind of sad because it's clear Janine sometimes wants to be more than fitting into the Certified Genius box. But that's how she earns outward expressions of her family's love and pride. It's got to be hard to feel like you have to keep it up at 100% all the time or lose that.

I would love to read fic about Janine going away to college and completely letting loose and going wild because even though the pressure to get good grades and Be Smart and Succeed are still there nagging in the back of her mind, it's suddenly not ever-present in her face all the time. (I mean, my real headcanon is that Janine continues to be smart and succeeds quickly in some STEM field or another, but it wouldn't be totally unreasonable to go in the opposite direction where she finally just snaps at some point and things go sideways for her because she can't deal with not being perfect.)
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[identity profile] redsilverchains.livejournal.com 2016-06-22 06:54 am (UTC)(link)
Oh that’s right, there was a whole Mystery dedicated to Janine hiding her love life! Shows that she’s the one who’s expected ONLY to concentrate on what she’s good at, meanwhile, Claudia goes to school dances with boys all the time and has fun.

I would love to read fic about Janine going away to college and completely letting loose and going wild because even though the pressure to get good grades and Be Smart and Succeed are still there nagging in the back of her mind, it's suddenly not ever-present in her face all the time

I could see this. She is most likely going to a college where everybody is at her intelligence level, so I can see her feeling much less pressure to stand out. It’s like going to a college where everybody else was also the valedictorian in high school, so you feel less pressure to be THE smartest. This happened to me in the jump between elementary and high school actually, and tbh, it was all for the best.

And hee, I just noticed your icon! <3